Rails is not written in Ruby

[Maartz]

@AstonJ

dove straight into it without learning Ruby and then found I was asking really dumb questions in their IRC channel.

I think the vast majority tries to learn a language through the go to framework of their favorite language.

But it’s a very bad habit since frameworks are “usually” opinionated and they tend to bend the language to their will.

The ActiveSupport rant is legit, and we ended up with Ruby devs which “can’t” write Ruby.

@dimitarvp

But I don’t like how there’s periodically a wave of very low-effort posts…

Maybe it’s because of hype or promotion on some kind of courses/books. I do not go on ElixirForum this much lately.

@AstonJ

I hope you’ll consider project structure to be more component based (so rather than the typical MVC folder structure, folders will be dictated by components

Take a look at Commanded, it’s a CQRS/ES library, we got separation based on domain, and you can be very granular if you want to.

@dimitarvp

I can hardly call Phoenix accessible however.

Maybe Phoenix is much more accessible than Rails in the sense that it’s explicit. We know that a controller is a controller because of the controller macro, etc. In Rails, it’s not the case at all.

@lpil

I think Elm has done a great job with this for the frontend

I agree! It’s quite sad though to see, at least here in France, that Elm is not getting any traction.
Despite the bold statement made by Elm, this video explains probably why.