# Apple and Intel first to use TSMC 3nm

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**Category:** Hardware\
**Tags:** apple, intel\
**Created:** [5 July 2021 02:27 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770 "2021-07-05T02:27:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![CommunityNews](https://forum.devtalk.com/user_avatar/forum.devtalk.com/communitynews/32/1113_2.png) [@CommunityNews](https://forum.devtalk.com/u/CommunityNews)\
**Post date:** [5 July 2021 02:27 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770/1 "2021-07-05T02:27:55Z")

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> Apple and Intel will be the first customers for TSMC’s 3nm process, reports the Nikkei, with Intel securing the higher volume.
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> The process is due to enter production in H2 2022.
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> Compared to 5nm, the 3nm process, has a 10-15% speed improvement at the same power or a power reduction of 25-30% at the same speed, with a logic density improvement of 1.7x, an SRAM density improvement of 1.2x and an analogue density improvement of 1.1x.
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> It is thought that the iPad will be first to get 3nm chips with the next generation of iPhone using the 4nm half-node.
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> Intel is said to be initially using the 3nm node for notebook PC processors and datacentre CPUs.

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> **[Apple and Intel first to use TSMC 3nm](https://www.electronicsweekly.com/uncategorised/apple-intel-first-use-tsmc-3nm-2021-07/)**
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> Apple and Intel will be the first customers for TSMC’s 3nm process, reports the Nikkei, with Intel securing the higher volume. The process is due to enter

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**Author:** ![GermaVinsmoke](https://forum.devtalk.com/user_avatar/forum.devtalk.com/germavinsmoke/32/2738_2.png) [@GermaVinsmoke](https://forum.devtalk.com/u/GermaVinsmoke)\
**Post date:** [6 July 2021 07:55 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770/3 "2021-07-06T07:55:01Z")

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The upcoming M1 chip will have 3nm?

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**Author:** ![dimitarvp](https://forum.devtalk.com/user_avatar/forum.devtalk.com/dimitarvp/32/5599_2.png) [@dimitarvp](https://forum.devtalk.com/u/dimitarvp)\
**Post date:** [6 July 2021 13:15 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770/4 "2021-07-06T13:15:24Z")

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It’s beyond anyone’s guess. IMO they want the 3nm process for future MacBook Pros and Mac Pros (workstations). But only time will tell.

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**Author:** ![OvermindDL1](https://forum.devtalk.com/user_avatar/forum.devtalk.com/overminddl1/32/52_2.png) [@OvermindDL1](https://forum.devtalk.com/u/OvermindDL1)\
**Post date:** [7 July 2021 14:21 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770/5 "2021-07-07T14:21:04Z")

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Now the question, would there actually be enough production for us to use it?

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**Author:** ![dimitarvp](https://forum.devtalk.com/user_avatar/forum.devtalk.com/dimitarvp/32/5599_2.png) [@dimitarvp](https://forum.devtalk.com/u/dimitarvp)\
**Post date:** [7 July 2021 18:56 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770/6 "2021-07-07T18:56:08Z")

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Apple have bought a sizeable chunk of TSMC’s manufacturing capacity for quite some time in the future still.

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**Author:** ![OvermindDL1](https://forum.devtalk.com/user_avatar/forum.devtalk.com/overminddl1/32/52_2.png) [@OvermindDL1](https://forum.devtalk.com/u/OvermindDL1)\
**Post date:** [8 July 2021 14:56 UTC](https://forum.devtalk.com/t/apple-and-intel-first-to-use-tsmc-3nm/11770/7 "2021-07-08T14:56:29Z")

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Yeah that’s the issue, it’s not like I can use their hardware for anything I do so they are just starving people like me.